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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:56 am    Post subject: Great Aussie Company?

Or good corporate citizens.

Wonder how we all continue to work untill we die as per Little Johhny Howards grand plan.

I know.... we starve to death because all our jobs have been shipped offshore and we can't afford to buy food. Besides we'll probably export all of that to feed the slaves working for two bux a day in the third world.

Herald Sun - 5 March - Page 17
Holden to move jobs to India
Holden plans to send its accounts payable and receivable department to a new service centre in India by the end of the year. The department will handle financial transactions for General Motors’ entire Asia-Pacific division. It is understood the Indian workers who will staff the centre will be trained by the Australians whose jobs they will take.
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:11 am    Post subject:

Not saying it isnt true,

but the HERALD SUN really isnt the height of Journalistic integrity
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:57 pm    Post subject:

Flat: I won't tell my girl you said that.....being that she's a JOURNALIST there!!!!!!

Keep this in mind: HS does NOT pay for stories. Others do!
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:00 pm    Post subject:

Holden an Aussie company....still? Hell, that's new to me.........I think Toyota contributes MORE to this country than Holden does.

Mr Carps: would I be correct?

I think a lot of people would be surprised where their AUSTRALIAN customer service really is located......and it ain't just Holden!
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:14 pm    Post subject:

I will have to agree with the integrity comment from flatoz, peddro.They once printed an article that was devoid of fact involving a deceased member of my family[brother].I pointed out that the article was untrue,and the response was that "they could print what they like".Work colleagues restrained me from heading into the office of said paper and thumping the sub editor at the time."New Idea" is another publication that ran an article on the same incident,they were not interested in the correct story either..................Frank
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:35 pm    Post subject:

I'm not really the guy to be discussing journalistic integrity since my opinion is likely to get me sued.

However, I don't see GMHA rushing out with the lawyers to sue the Sydney Morning Herald (sorry I read the papers from all round Australia) for publishing an incorrect story. Nor have I seen a retraction.
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:54 pm    Post subject:

peddro wrote:
Holden an Aussie company....still? Hell, that's new to me.........I think Toyota contributes MORE to this country than Holden does.

Mr Carps: would I be correct?


Well, both GMHA and FOMOCO directly employ more people to build and sell less vehicles (Both by better than double) which is one of the reasons I get a bit snitchy when people pick on my coleagues. Fact is we build the best quality cars in the world and we build more of em than our competitors with less than half the staff, so I believe we can all be justifiably proud of what we do and where we work.

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I think a lot of people would be surprised where their AUSTRALIAN customer service really is located......and it ain't just Holden!


Local content as measured by the gummint experts includes labour, so with less than half the number of people working on building our cars and a local contant percentage greater than two other local car makers and equal to the other, who has double our direct workforce, I guess that's a debatable point.

Someone pointed out to me recently that GMHA reported a greater gross profit than Toyota Australia last year which is quite true. However, GMHA don't have the repayments on their local investments coming out of thier income, since most of their plant and equipment was payed for years ago. Remember when GM payed out all of GMHA's outstanding debts not so long back. Far as TMC is concerned if we don't pay our own way, then we are screwed.

Late last year there was a gummint report published locally as after a team of 'experts' assesed the efficiency of Australian businesses. They said we were the most inneficient company in Australia. Yet, we are internationally recognised as building the equal to best quality cars in the world, we do it with lass than half the number of employees as our nearest competitor and about one third the number of employees as our next nearest competitor. It's also public knowledge that we spend double on sponsorship of local sporting and public social activities as any local corporate entity. Our working conditions etc are also second to none.

So, whilst Pedro's comment can be debated and I'm sure it will, I'm comfortable with the fact I'm part of a great 'Australian Company' that is doing it's share for both the local economy and the nation's good health.

Did I also mention we're the countries number one expeorter of finished goods, with our prodyucts accounting for something like a third of the nations export income?

Oh yeah, and whilst we not only build more cars here than anybody else, we're the only ones to build two different car lines and we're pretty confident we may soon have a third.
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:55 am    Post subject:

Carps wrote:
we do it with lass than half the number of employees as our nearest competitor and about one third the number of employees as our next nearest competitor.


I'm glad that girls are involved, but you art any help to the employment stats.
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:53 pm    Post subject:

There was a lot of talk about a similar setup amongst the legal fraternity. Some of the larger firms are sending digital dictation files across the Internet to be transcribed by a lower cost labour force (e.g.India, Philippines). I can understand some of the reasoning behind wanting to do this, but the inside story is... most lawyers don't send any "important" stuff overseas as the quality of the work they get back is less than perfect.

Same deal with one of the new mobile phone services. Their tech support was based in India and a friend of mine who had recently moved over to this new network got completely frustrated with the service. He ended up moving back to his old service.

Maybe it'll take a little while to get it all sorted, but I think sometimes... well actually... all the time, you want to be able to talk to someone that you can understand.
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:21 pm    Post subject:

old32 wrote:
but you art any help to the employment stats.


Yeah, I figured somebody should raise that one. However, which company stepped up when one of the Americans stopped buying glass locally and filled the gap with more export business. Y'see as the American's go offshore for components etc, it's in our best interest to keep the local industries going with more orders for our overseas production plants. Sure we might screw em on price, but what's better, simply sending business offshore, or keeping a wide range of skills and jobs here?
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