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Brootal
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Joined: 11 Jun 2021
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:07 am    Post subject:

Whether the individual states accept it or not, I still think it's a good guide to anyone who is thinking of building a Hot Rod. There's a lot of common sense stuff in there that highlights some simple measures to take that will make your car safe and useable.

They recommend disc brakes, but if you pass the braking test, then there's no problems with running drums. I think it gives people a fairly broad spectrum within which you can build pretty much any type of car you want. I can see that what I would like to build would fit quite easily into those guidelines, so no problems there for me.

Sorry Choco, didn't mean to rain on your parade. I was going to add the link to your post, but as I said in my original post, that thread seemed to be a little sidetracked (to say the least!).
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Jimmy B
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Joined: 01 Feb 2021
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Location: Tweed Valley, NSW, Australia

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:20 am    Post subject:

What I can't understand about the NSW RTA, is how can they be against Rodders using repo chassis rails when they're most likely safer than the 60-70 year old originals. No stress cracks, no twist in rails, and no rust or pits. If you use the repo rails the vehicle will be classed as an ICV, and most of the states that have adopted the Guidelines allow the use of a repo chassis.

You GET That In The Big City!

All in all a good well writen piece, too bad NSW RTA have nothing better to do than to make rodders lifes difficult. No wonder the roads are so bad!
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bcal
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Location: The Shire, Sydney

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:04 am    Post subject:

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What I can't understand about the NSW RTA, is how can they be against Rodders using repo chassis rails when they're most likely safer than the 60-70 year old originals. No stress cracks, no twist in rails, and no rust or pits. If you use the repo rails the vehicle will be classed as an ICV, and most of the states that have adopted the Guidelines allow the use of a repo chassis.


Hey that’s common sense.
Problem is that sense is no longer common.

The RTA are aware that repro chassis exist but they may have been turning a bit of a blind eye. Especially since they rely so heavily on the engineer who inspects the vehicle.
Problem is that we’ve been advertising repro chassis in mags etc and other motoring interest groups that are having trouble getting their ICVs on the road have been pointing this out. They reckon that what’s good for the geese should also be good for the ganders.
At a recent meeting between the SRC and the RTA the RTA produced a copy of a street rod mag with pages relating to repro chassis marked and they then asked, “please explain?”
Also the RTA has a real problem with rod builders that use flat pack chassis coz they are definitely not replacement rails. I’ve heard of one instance where, after passing rego, a rodder got a visit from the RTA and they ran a snake camera down his rails to check the welds.
We really need to sort this issue out here in NSW but until the club rego scheme can be finally put to bed nothing much can be done.
As I mentioned earlier there will be a special meeting on this very issue so if you’re in a club you should discuss it with your club’s delegate encourage and them to attend.
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AutoCOL
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Joined: 12 Jun 2021
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Location: Melbourne

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:47 pm    Post subject:

if you build a car to these guidelines, does that mean that you can only register it as a "street rod" with limited club rego?

the guidelines seem quite, nay, VERY relaxed, i would have said. a credit to the rodders that managed to push them through. i just can't imagine getting full rego with a car built to the limits of these guidelines...
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Joined: 13 Jun 2021
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Location: Lakes Entrance Victoria, Australia

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:57 pm    Post subject:

Very relaxed I think it covers what has been built before and passed for full reg. I think it addresses most of the basic safety issues (with in reason).

My understanding is that they are guidelines so using them as a guide when building a rod, you would have the car on the right track for full reg or club rego.

When it first came up I thought maybe it would be a National Registration with it own plates like interstate tucking has national registration (interstate plates).

I note that no bonnet is possible if the fan on the alternator has a shroud, I wonder if you would have to have the headers covered as well if they were inside the rails?

I does seem that some of it is open to interoperation and if the engineer doesn’t like some thing, you would have to redo it the way he wants to pass.
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:06 pm    Post subject:

yep, relaxed... i mean, to be able to scratch build a car with a completely different suspension set-up, front and rear, different brakes, different steering, different, and potentially fairly monstrous engine(a 460 on 9lbs of boost!), different chassis (not COMPLETELY different, but there's QUITE a degree of flexibility in design)... different EVERYTHING really, and then be able to get full registration as a REPLICA?

i'm calling that fairly relaxed. and fantastic news...

my project ideas may require a shuffle...
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FRANK BASILE
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:26 pm    Post subject:

Yes indeed! A cursory look at the guidelines gives me the impression that commonsense prevails,building a basic rod with proven engine swap and suspension/brake change should be a cinch for rego,many thanks to those involved....................Frank.
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spoolin_20B
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Joined: 21 Mar 2021
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Location: S.A the closet rodder state

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:16 pm    Post subject:

dam the max boost is only 9 PSI looks like stock boost levels for a few days
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Brootal
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:52 pm    Post subject:

spoolin_20B wrote:
dam the max boost is only 9 PSI looks like stock boost levels for a few days


Is that all they push out stock? I imagine if they come out of the factory with x PSI of boost, then you can still run that. Of course, what would be the point of running it with stock boost. That ain't HOT RODDING!!!
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spoolin_20B
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:08 pm    Post subject:

yea that would be some thing interesting to see what would happen if your stock boost was over 9psi
all i need now is the other 9psi i wana run

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