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JIMBOB
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:09 pm    Post subject: Jimbobs wheels

As suggeted by Brootal here's some pickies of my wheels at the momment.

The bucket I've been building for about too long now and is finally really close to done, I hope. I bought the car reasonably complete but was running a 350, 350, jag rear and had some really bad suspension geometry and chassis work. Sold all running gear, chopped chassis down the guts and started virtually from scratch. Its now running a 302 W, duburred (never again, those slithers of iron go everywhere!), World (Rouche?) heads, blah, blah, C4 and 9". colour is custom mixed and trim will be camel. Unsure to go with bench seat or speed boat buckets yet.





The Buick we only bought Dec 03 virtually as is from a good mate who needed a house deposit. Its been converted to rhd and runs a '70 vette 454, T400 and 9" with 4 link. Was imported by Junkyard Classics in '97, unsure of who did the conversion, strped by Al in Taren point.





Thanks Brootal for helpin me get these pickies up

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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:32 pm    Post subject:

looking good JIMBOB
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 10:03 pm    Post subject:

Nice cars JB
I love the way the side moulding flows around the rear wheel arches on them Buicks. Timeless
Your bucket looks pretty slick too.

Now how exactly do they (whom ever they are) define what is or isn’t a reproduction chassis?
If I build an A model chassis of similar dimensions to the original from 3x2 box it would most probably be considered a repro.
But what if I were to kick up the rear?
Or install a suicide front end?
Is it not, still a repro?

What then, if I were to do a similar thing with a repro T chassis?

Just because everyone, including us rodders, has been conned into considered buckets to be ICVs doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be prepared to push the interpretations in these new guidelines a little.

After all your car is gunna be worth a lot more with full Canberra plates on it than with NSW club plates.
Just a thort.
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 8:48 am    Post subject: Jinbobs wheels

I agree bcal, not too sure if its got something to do with it being full home built, whereas a modified orig or mass produced repo chassis has a known structural integrity and some resemblance to orig , who knows, maybe we have all just been conned.

A local Canberra rodder did get a bucket thru full ACT rego early last year and he had to do a lot, intrusion bars, roll bar with head rests, cat converters, heater/demister, indicators on the cycle gaurds and on the body, He did well. I can't justify the extra dollars on a car that's only gunna get limited use down here and all those extras will take away the bucket 'look' that I'm after. Windscreen wipers are hard to fit on a 4" screen, and a heater/demister in a bucket with no roof at all . But no doubt, if you planned from the start to get one thru I'm sure it could be done and look pretty cool.

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 11:06 am    Post subject:

In case you're wondering where your pics went Jimbob, it appears my server is temporarily down. I've contacted the ISP and I'm sure they're looking at it as their own website is also down.

Should be back up soon.

Sorry about that, but you get what you pay for!
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 11:09 am    Post subject:

And you can dry your clothes on those headers!hehehe....

Jamie: send that 302 down to me if ya get sick of it!
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 1:40 pm    Post subject:

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A local Canberra rodder did get a bucket thru full ACT rego early last year and he had to do a lot, intrusion bars, roll bar with head rests, cat converters, heater/demister, indicators on the cycle gaurds and on the body, He did well. I can't justify the extra dollars on a car that's only gunna get limited use down here and all those extras will take away the bucket 'look' that I'm after. Windscreen wipers are hard to fit on a 4" screen, and a heater/demister in a bucket with no roof at all . But no doubt, if you planned from the start to get one thru I'm sure it could be done and look pretty cool.


JB. That was before the National Guidelines.
From what I hear the ACT have signed off on the guidelines and therefore you have a RIGHT to have you car registered if it satifies the definition of a streetrod.

http://www.dotars.gov.au/transreg/vsb/Street_Rod_Manual.aspx

In section 1 they refer to “replica pre49” chassis, which in the mind of most rodders would infer stamped reproduction rails.
However the dictionary meaning of replica is a “close or exact copy.” How many replica chassis are exact or even close copies of the original?
This is a poor terminology. What they should have is said is “a chassis as defined in section 2 of these guidelines.

Now read section 2 .
There is a pretty broad definition of what is a chassis and some minimum construction requirements.
Note clause 2.5.1 where it mentions that the minimum size RHS for a T bucket chassis is 75x50x3.
Also note that clause 2.4.1.4 provides for homebuilt chassis.
There is no mention anywhere here of the need to maintain the dimensions of the original chassis or it’s wheelbase.
Hell, they even allow for space frames.

IMO you should have worries defining your car as a streetrod under these
guidelines.
Full rego.
Go for it
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 1:57 pm    Post subject: Jimbobs wheels

Could be worth a try Razz . Is an engineer required for the guidelines, or just assembled in accordance with . I've built it to within the letter of the old SRC guidelines and Andy's in Taren point was going to organise the inspections. Don't know of anyone down this way.

Wayne, I'm keepin that donk even if I sell the car, sorry mate!
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 2:11 pm    Post subject:

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Is an engineer required for the guidelines

Only in NSW I believe.
Other states rely on TAC reps.
We don't have them here.
Check out who your local rep/s are.
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 2:15 pm    Post subject:

Just checked the ASRF pages;
NSW State Director
Kim Fetherston,
3 Ninth Avenue Janneli NSW 2226
Phone +61 2 9553 4661
kimosabay@hotmail.com

NSW TAC
Emmanual Cambourakis
Phone A/H +61 43 88 4762

ACT TAC
Bill Jansen
Phone A/H +61 6 241 5395
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 2:43 pm    Post subject: Jimbobs wheels

I went to a Canberra club meet last week where they said that ACT rego is no longer using the TAC as part of rod inspections.

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 2:44 pm    Post subject: Jimbobs wheels

Oh yeah, and Bill jansen lives down Nowra way now, not in Canberra.

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 4:12 pm    Post subject: Jimbobs wheels

bcal, you were right, ,well , maybe. Just got off the phone with ACT tech standards and they said quote " at the end of the day, if your engineer approves it in accordance with the guidelines, who are we to knock it back? Come to think of it, I've never seen a T bucket with an original chassis." He didn't seem concerned about wipers or heater etc, and was willing to meet with my engineer at my place and look it over . Could this be a first, rego being co-operative .

We'll see what happens, watch this space.

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Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 6:48 pm    Post subject:

Jimbob, your bucket should get through OK. You should contact Alan Cooper on 6288 8549 or alan.cooper@anu.edu.au
Tech Standards can be cooperative, or they can be a thorn in your side. They no longer recognise a TAC inspection, but the TAC still negotiates with them on our behalf. Alan has had several meetings with them to make sure they are taking up the national guidelines in the spirit they were intended. Andrew Komnacki's coupe is about to go through when only a few months ago they said "no way" as it was a glass body on a repro chassis. Essentially, Tech Standards in the ACT has always had a problem with where the buck stops. They have never had the balls to sign off on anything, and have kept some rodders going round in circles beacuse of their indecision. The national guidleines have taken away that uncertainty.
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:17 pm    Post subject: Jimbob's wheels

Got the body cut and buffed last week and dropped it on the chassis. Started to fit some stuff up and it looks like its getting there .

Trimmer is booked out till October



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