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JUnkyard
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:57 am    Post subject: BANJO STYLE STEERING WHEEL

Have a colume in the rod which I beleive is from a Mazda 626. It has a copy of the Banjo wheel. It is a wood rim steering wheel. Am i right in saying these came out on Mazda 626's or is it from another model. Any help aprreciated.
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Flatoz
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:30 pm    Post subject:

626 929??

its a mazda tho
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devilrod
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:31 pm    Post subject:

Try the boys at ALLMAZ (Clayton Vic) if you are from Vic that is.
The boys at ALLMAZ have built a few rods in their time and I'm sure the can tell you over the phone, unfortunately I don't have their number.
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:32 pm    Post subject:

This wheel came from Almaz



Sorry I haven't got a better pic,
its an early Mazda, not sure which model but they will know
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buickroadster
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:40 pm    Post subject:

wheel is from a 70's mazda capella(got one from a swap for$20)sitting on the top of my 626 coloum in the buick.going to use one in the '39 ford i'm building too.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:25 am    Post subject:

The wheel looks great, I want to have a column shift auto in the p/van, does mazda 626 or 929 have a similar column?

Also the jag front end will have the jag universal set up to the steering column, would one of these mazda columns fit?
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FRANK BASILE
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:18 am    Post subject:

Big G , I have just gone thru the Jag connection to a column using the Jag universals.In my case the column is Toyota Corona 1985.I seperated the internal slide and removed the lower half of the shaft,replaced this with a VC Commodore shaft which is hollow [female spline at the base]I then sliced off the spline section from the bottom end of a Jag shaft,this fits into the Commodore spline,and by filing a flat you use the stock Commodore clamp with cotter pin style bolt ,you are essentially then looking at the end of a Jag column,the standard Jag couplings to the rack are then used .My observations are that the internal slide dimensions on most of these vehicles are the same[Toyota,Torana,Commodore,Holden, Jag etc] Your Mazda should be the same unless you are really stiff,you may ask the question on why not use the Jag lower half complete? ,The answer is that they are too short for most applications.The only small problem I encountered is using the stock Commodore lower bush,the lower end of the tube needs reducing for a tight fit,this can be fixed ...........Frank
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:50 am    Post subject:

Thanks Frank, it will be a while before I fit the steering (about 50yrs at the current rate). I do have the full jag steering column, it is too fat & ugly (bit like me),

When I first read your description of how to modify the shaft, I thought it was a bit complex, but after a second reading realised it is within my capabilities. Would an engineer pass this???

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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:51 am    Post subject:

Thanks Frank, it will be a while before I fit the steering (about 50yrs at the current rate). I do have the full jag steering column, it is too fat & ugly (bit like me),

When I first read your description of how to modify the shaft, I thought it was a bit complex, but after a second reading realised it is within my capabilities. Would an engineer pass this???

Keep on Kroozin,
Glynn
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:56 am    Post subject:

OOPS sorry fellas, I had a reply telling me the first one wasn't accepted so I sent it again.
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:05 pm    Post subject:

Re the Mazda wheel (said he with a deft change of thread, back to the original): I have the same setup in the Essex: it's a Mazda 121 coupe wheel (early 70's). I am using an early 323 column modified with a lower bearing as the original mazda had a steering box setup.
Pretty well all these early Mazda bits (that's "bits" guys not baits...) will fit with each other. I am also using BMC (Austin) rack and uni joints. Same size as the Mazda stuff.
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:56 pm    Post subject:

went to the wreakers the other day to look for a steerring column for the '39 ute.had to be a long one at 24" from the dash mount to the firewall.the only ones that measured up were a torana(LH-LX)which was too big and bulky and a early 1800 subaru(colapsable).the subaru is a nice slim line early style type column,fully self contained with a lower bearing already fitted, the subaru uni is easily adapted to the commadore rack and the dash mount is pretty straight forward.total cost was $40.
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FRANK BASILE
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:32 pm    Post subject:

Glynn ,there should be no probs with an engineer,the internals will still slide as intended,[I suspect these shafts come from the same supplier,to the various car manufacturers] .The Jag universal connects to the stock Jag spline which is fitted into the end of the Commodore shaft ,it is clamped into the Commodore shaft exactly as the Commodore uni would be, there is no welding or specialist machining,all stock bits .........Frank.
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:19 pm    Post subject:

Sounds good to me Frank.

I will start lookin for one.
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:22 am    Post subject:

You should be ok now glynn,slice off the Jag shaft at the start of the spline and keep this,ditch the rest.the only other issue is that of a lower VB,VC, Commodore shaft being able to slide onto your chosen Mazda column.If you have not seperated one of these before,you will notice qty 2 plastic or nylon filled holes,drill these out,and then the shafts should slide apart with some persuasion[they are a tight fit].When rejoining,after setting the rqd,length,I just drill and fit plastic pins[I have used cut up small knitting needles].Actually this craft can be practised on your now useless Jag column.If you are a little unsure of tackling the good column.......Frank.
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