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I Beam Frontend, What Fits?

 
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JIMBOB
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:32 pm    Post subject: I Beam Frontend, What Fits?

Spoke with Gary Page about droppin the 34 axle on Friday and will send it off next week. As I will soon be scouring the classifieds for parts, was wondering what is best to use on the frontend and what bits fit, i.e. spindles, brakes, wishbone, springs. Want a traditional look. Don't know much about what old stuff is interchangable, and not scared of a little machining if needed.

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Mr Model A
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:24 am    Post subject:

JIMBOB,
I am using a 34 axle in my 28 rpu, also had it dropped by Gary, he also fixed the perch pin & king pin holes.
I supplied new king pins & he fitted them up, well worth it.
I am using '46 stub axles with late model Falcon discs adapted, this work was done by Colin Bates in Croydon ( Vic. )
Requires an adaptor for the inner bearing and also shorten the stub, also of course a bracket for the caliper.
If you are wanting to do it yourself, check out the Hot Rod fever books by Adrian ?? from Stawell he has detailed plans of the adaptors.
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:29 pm    Post subject:

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Want a traditional look.


Not quite what you'd get with Falcon disc brakes!

What kinda look are you after Jamie?? Full-fendered or cycle guards? Ridin' high in the saddle or down in the weeds?
It'll affect what you do with your front suspension set-up.
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JIMBOB
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:40 pm    Post subject: I beam frontend

Still playin with details but heres the the plan as it stands. A chassis, 30 roadster highboy style. Want it to sit lower than stock, will reset springs with dropped axle to get "the look", split wishbones or hairpins?. 50's style, bobbed rear gards, cycles up front. If we don't run juice brakes will want to run the dummy buick covers to hide the discs. Body wil be painted in a flat colour ( or maybe 2 or 3 ) of some description and will run crossply www's. Home made trim. Want a jalopy look i guess

Just curious on spindle and wishbone types and differences. I don't know what fits what and what was the shit to run at the time. Don't want a "new" car.

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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:15 pm    Post subject:

How much does Gary chsrge to drop an axle? Do you get an engineers cert with that?
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:05 am    Post subject:

According to Adrian Taylorís book, Hot Rod Fever No.2, all the stub axles fit except the 36. It has a different king pin angle. The distance between the perch bolts should be the same (36 Ĺ inches) from 28 to 34 so any spring from those years should fit but I am not sure how many leaves are in each spring. The correct one will depend on the weight of your car.

Donít use old Ford drum brakes. They were fine providing you didnít want to stop. Many people used fifties F100 drum brakes years ago. They will certainly stop you but they weigh a ton and while the extra unsprung weight may not worry something the size of a 48 Mercury, it wont help the ride on a light weight roadster.

Disc are the only way to go but before you cover them with Buick style covers, check out Ted Robinetteís comments regarding heat retention in Australian Street Rodding magazine issue 169 April 2004.

Split wishbones or hairpins? Lets not go into that again. I would never use them because they have the undesirable effect of twisting the axle as the suspension moves and they may cause problems with registration these days. Go back to the discussion in this site on splitting them. The arguments went on for weeks.

Whitewall tyres will look good but cross plys??? Those things belong in museums. I have read a few warnings about them in rod magazines in recent years. Check out the Antique Tyre Company on 03 9458 4433 or the Coker website. Surely they have something in a modern radial that looks old. I am not sure if they still make the Michelin X steel belted radial. They were released in 1934 and I saw plenty of rods using them back in the 1960s.

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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:28 pm    Post subject:



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0760309000/ref=sib_rdr_dp/002-2155085-7778457?%5Fencoding=UTF8&no;=283155&me;=ATVPDKIKX0DER&st;=books

Mike Bishops book, if you haven't already got it, is pretty damn handy if you're building a real hot rod. I got mine through Amazon in next to no time.

It's even got info on using DRUM brakes and cross-plies!
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JIMBOB
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:53 pm    Post subject: I beam front end

Thanks for the replies guy's.
Peddro, sounds like a good book, will order it tomorrow. Someone does understand

Will try and track down the Hot rod fever books as well.


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