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cyber600
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Location: New Gisborne

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:07 am    Post subject: Lead Wiping

Hi guys, look would like to do some lead wiping, I've tried it in the past but
the fluxing solution that I have tried was far to corresive.
I mention this to my father and he claimed to be quite good at it and pulled out a really old tin of flux, (companys gone now) and he subsequently show'd me how to it all worked.
Now this all great but I need some more tinning flux and the only place I have been able to find it is http://www.johnsonmfg.com/temp/main.htm and you guessed it in the states. Now I dont mind buying from the states but I would like to see if any one knows if I can get it locally?

I have had a few bum steers, and the bakers plumbing solution that I have
tried in the past is just to corresive so the only other solution was to purchased some.

This is one of those areas that really only old timers know about but no one knows where to get the stuff.


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Junkyard
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:10 pm    Post subject: LEAD WIPING

If you go to oldholdem.com you will see in the sheds there that the guy going by the nickname streetneat does lead wiping. He has a panel beating business and is always willing to offer advice. If you post your questions on there, maybe even directing it at streetneat you should get an answer pretty quick. He certainly seems to know what he is doing as he chopped a old holden van and lead wiped the joints and then displayed it at a show in bare metal.
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TJ'S Dad
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:22 am    Post subject:

You could try Colin Bates (custom chassie design) in Croydon .... he had an ol fella Sid doin lead wiping for him yrs ago

or John Ferguson in Geelong ... i dont know how to get hold of him but am sure Gordon Issell at Grovedale will have a contact number

Ferg is an expert at this !
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cyber600
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:35 am    Post subject:

thanx junkyard, I have a email off to him awaiting a reply.

thanx Mike, I'll chase them up.

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Mr Cool
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Location: Bacchus Marsh, Vic

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:39 pm    Post subject:

Many years ago I used to get the flux from the linesmen at Telecom, however as this is now all contracted work its near impossible to find someone to get it for me, luckily I have a fair bit still stashed away. I'll try and find out what this stuff is, and where they got it from, but as they used it on lead sheathed cable its not corrosive at all.
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cyber600
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:00 pm    Post subject:

I now what it is my father was a linesmen as well. It can no longer be found company long gone. So far the best bet is to buy eastwoods in the states or johnsons. johnsons seem to make a much better product.

but await a email back from them on costs and purchasing off them.

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Pep
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:35 pm    Post subject:

I don't know if this stuff is still around, its called Yorkshire I think. The Bakers stuff is a paste but the Yorkshire is a liquid and I think is non reacting after a certain time.
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:28 pm    Post subject:

Well, I have never lead wiped anything, so can one of you wise men give me a quick overview of how its done?
me a young pup, need educating!
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cyber600
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:12 pm    Post subject:

check this link out it provides a good example

http://www.carcraft.com/howto/3065/


pep this is the stuff that my father has but you can no longer get it.
I've tried baker's far too corrosive - tried this out on my last wiping venture.
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GBS
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Joined: 18 May 2021
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Location: Central Coast NSW

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2020 9:22 pm    Post subject:

Cyber

I was just wondering why you want to use lead. In 1999 I enrolled in a spray painting course at Ultimo TAFE in Sydney and when we first started using filler, someone in the class asked the teacher about lead wiping. The reply was forget it, it was used years ago because there was nothing else available. He said it can not compare with the modern plastic fillers available today.

One of the members of my rod club has been a panel beater/painter for forty years and currently works full time on rod and classic car bodies. I asked him about lead and got a similar answer. Apart from not being as good as today’s fillers, he said it sweats when it melts and this sweat gets between the lead and the steel eventually causing corrosion.

There seems to be a belief in rodding circles that lead wiping is the greatest thing since sliced bread and is the only way to do a top quality job. Maybe it is a carry over from the very early days of rodding. From what I have been told it belongs back in the days of white metal bearings and updraft carbies.

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cyber600
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2020 10:24 am    Post subject:

This is why, My chev at the moment is cut up and as I am slowly put it all back together it will be still properly another 12mths before I am anywhere near priming it as I still have some mods I want to make to it. Now I have been taught that to do a decent job you should epoxy primer the whole vehicle, then remove various areas of the primer to then bondo it up. I live in a very moist area which drives me up the wall as I have mists rolling of the mountain and everything I have rusts up pretty quickly. So I figure that I get hold of some lead and apply it to the areas that need it. Then later I just primer over it not worrying about bondoing it later. Thats me current view. It may not be correct but its one that I am currently follow unless I can be convinced otherwise.

See I can in a shop scenerio of a vehicle moving quickly threw to a priming stage.

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cyber600
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2020 8:49 pm    Post subject:

Ok, just a quick note to close this thread off.

On the issue of flux in Melbourne,

Consolidated Alloys
03 9359 5811
32 Industrial Ave
Thomastown

The product is Kemptex B its around $55AUS a 1kilo call before rockin up.
This was a third of the price on a blackwoods product. (alternate thread)

Oh dont ask for a catalog as they dont have one (old fashion compnay), but they stock quite a in the fluxes range you just have to query them.

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Franky
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2020 9:42 pm    Post subject:

Dave,
Got any updated pics, I also have slowed on mine but will try and get some pics up in a week or two. Cheers
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cyber600
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2020 8:01 am    Post subject:

No unfortunately, I am taking a break from it, but I am building a planishing hammer and helve hammer at the moment in preparation for making some new fenders and tail pain. work and family have been a bit demanding lately.

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