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jahoota
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2021 10:00 am    Post subject: Chassis No. & Location...

Couple questions for you wisened old rodders out there....

1. Where is the chassis no. usually stamped on model A rails?? Outside, drivers side? passanger side?

2. What sort of coding is usually used???

I kinda need to find out as I need to sell the beast (my incomplete 29A roadster pickup) as part of the joys of divorce and I would like to ascertain whether the number I've got matches the chassis.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2021 1:11 pm    Post subject:

As far a I know A model chassis didn't have numbers. I have an original A chassis at home and it doesn't have a number on it anywhere. [/url]
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2021 2:23 pm    Post subject:

so what ive got may well be "made up" (sure looks that way!)
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2021 6:42 pm    Post subject:

My understanding about Model A chassis numbers is that chassis built in the USA had numbers and ones built in Canada didn't.In the USA the engine number which always started with " CA " when it was designated for a car and " CAA if it was for a truck.The Canadian engine numbers had a slightly different number prefix depending on the month and year they went like CAQ, CAW, CAE, CAR, etc etc . Now i may be wrong but that is all I have found so far Regards Peter
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2021 10:28 pm    Post subject: chassis no's

I've owned lots of model A's and none ever had a chassis number, a couple of the early 28's had numbers on the firewall, upper left hand side.
I remember when registering a 30 coupe at the old RTA office in FTG, the subject of chassis numbers came up, I said to the bloke there, they never had em, of course he didn't believe me, went and got a big old book, looked it up in front of me, and then agreed!! Of course we then had to get a number stamped on the chassis ( VP---- )
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2021 12:42 am    Post subject:

If they had a number stamped on them (USA) it was under the cowl on the left hand side on top of the rail. I went looking for the same info and most old hands told me the Australian ones didn't have a number stamped on them.

if it looks the part don't tell them different
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2021 8:43 pm    Post subject:

Ive had this very conversation with many people of the last few years, and the general consensus is that if you go and get yourself an A model engine and use that number on the chassis you cant go wrong, as Ford used engine and body numbers the same as each other.
Only problem is, where to find a A engine there must be some around somewhere.
Another one ive heard is get a number from a yankee rod and use that, as its highly unlikely that the yank rod will ever end up here. Of course thats illegal, and i didnt tell anyone to do that, just mentioned that ive heard of it being done before.
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2021 10:15 pm    Post subject:

just to add fuel to the fire-

A Model ID numbers
Model "A" #'s went as follows
1928 #5276 thru #810122
1929 #810123 thru # 2742695
1930 #2742696 thru # 4237500
1931 # 4237501 thru # 4830806
These numbers are stamped on the frame under the cowl on the drivers side (left hand) along with a star. * info from H.A.M.B from superbell USA.

you didn't hear it from me.
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2021 9:38 am    Post subject:

pick a number... any number....

i guess that answers the question!
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2020 6:42 am    Post subject: Model "A" Serial Numbers

Hello from "up top." (Canada)

It's strange how this exact same subject is "bouncing around" here in Canada; or more specifically Alberta.

The Ford Model "A's" built in Canada had serial numbers on the engine AND the frame. I have also heard from a fellow in New Zealand that says his serial number is stamped on the steering col. hanger.

The bodies had what is called a "SIL" number. (usually stamped on the front seat crossmember) The SIL numbers were preceeded by a letter, mine is "T" indicating the body was built in Toronto. The rest of the numbers indicate the date of assembly. This could mean that MORE THAN ONE body bears the same number.

'28's in some cases had the serial number on a tag on the firewall, BUT NOT ALWAYS! (mine as an example)

Canadian serial numbers usually start with the letter "C", but not all US built cars used the letter "C" at the begining of the serial number.

At the moment; my solution will be to get a '28 engine number. (I don't have the original frame or engine anymore) The car, a Tudor Hiboy will have a flathead with a SCoT blower on top.
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2020 3:56 pm    Post subject:

thanx DD. Extra, useful info.

ahhhhh canada, my 2nd fav country! back there in feb 04 for two weeks sking with my mates. Must be hell cruising in a roadster in winter
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2020 2:58 am    Post subject:

jahoota wrote:
thanx DD. Extra, useful info.

ahhhhh canada, my 2nd fav country! back there in feb 04 for two weeks sking with my mates. Must be hell cruising in a roadster in winter


Do I take that as, "WILL BE" back in Feb 04....
Seeing as how Calgary is the "sking capital" of Canada, will you be around here?

Drop me a note before you leave home. Maybe we can roll a couple of roadsters out in the snow for you!

BTW - Cword drives his roadster in ANY weather!!
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2020 12:27 pm    Post subject:

yep, definatley back in feb 04.....

got 5 days sking fernie and then 10 days tearing up whistler. tragic stuff really.... Unfortuneatly we're not going via calgary this time, rather flying direct to cranbrook from vancouver. didnt plan that well did I!!!
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2020 12:50 pm    Post subject:

jahoota wrote:
yep, definatley back in feb 04.....

got 5 days sking fernie and then 10 days tearing up whistler. tragic stuff really.... Unfortuneatly we're not going via calgary this time, rather flying direct to cranbrook from vancouver. didnt plan that well did I!!!


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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2020 3:30 am    Post subject: Model A Serial numbers - More.

Did some "in depth" research on serial numbers for Ford model A's over the weekend.

1. ALL serial numbers originally were stamped on the engine. (side, under water outlet) Until about 1930, engines were assembled in one location and shipped to assembly plants around the world.

2. The brass "tag" that was mounted on the firewall (originally) was to indicate PATENT numbers. It did NOT make any reference to a/the serial number.

3. Because engines (with serial numbers) were shipped on an "as needed" basis to the different assembly plants, the numbers didn't always match the year of the car. (the batches of engines usually exceded the years)

4. Each assembly plant was to (supposed to) stamp the engine number (vis a vis the serial number) on the frame. The location of the number was usually on the left side of the frame. Sometimes it would be UNDER the cowl and sometimes just forward. (in Canada some cars had a "cut out" in the fender to expose the number on the frame that was forward of the cowl)

5. It would appear that different assembly plants put the engine number (serial) in assorted other locations; either on the body or NOT AT ALL.

So.. if you are in need of a serial number for a '28 to '31 Ford Model "A"; the best bet is to get one off a engine; and if I got my information straight, it does not matter what year.

Just stay away from number "ONE!!"
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